Track Bar mount???

[FLYINHIE]

Alright got some parts back and now it's time to get to work.. With the FW D44 HP and a 5" lift would you guys recommend cutting the track bar mount off of the C-wedge and either buying or fabing one up that includes a rise or will the one cast into the C-wedge work with a drop at the frame. I don't want to experment I just want to do it once and have it be right. Picture included to clear up my ebonics....

[highlander]

Re: Track Bar mount???

What kind of steering are you running? Tie rod over (TRO) or under the knuckle? You want the angle of the track bar and drag link parallel to each other to avoid bumpsteer. A track bar riser on teh axle is much stronger than the track bar drop brackets. The drop brackets put a lot of stress on the frame.

[FLYINHIE]

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Under,,,, gonna build my own "stone crusher" type steering setup. Ok so I havn't done any research on it yet but I think WH sells a track bar riser bracket (for the axle)pretty cheap????? Might be a little easier then making one. I'll start cutting off the mount from the C-wedge then. Thanks for the good input. Didn't even know where to start with the geometry, thanks.....

[kwspony]

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is that what a track bar mount looks like on a FW axle? I though it was a sway bar mount. The mount WH sells isn't too cheap but it is very nice. I would go with it and axe the mount you have now.

[FLYINHIE]

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Track bar Sway bar radius arm drag link I get em all confused to be honest. What ever the bar is called that holds the axle in place from left to right. Track bar( I thought)

[crawlin68]

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Another vote for a riser at the axle end. Build your own or just get the one that WH sells. Like Highland said, you need to try to keep you track bar and drag link parallel to each other AND the same length as each other too. That way they travel on the same arch plane as your suspension travels up and down.

[CityHick]

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Don't forget that even with a riser on the axle end, its still a very good idea to beef up the frame end too. Cage sells a very nice track bar drop bracket that has holes both in the stock and dropped locations. I lopped the lower section off of mine, even with the stock track bar mount, so now my track bar rides on a bolt that still goes through the stock hole, it just has some extra beef around it now.

My drag link and track bar are almost exactly parallel and pretty close to the same length and I get very little to no bumpsteer at all. The riser on my axle was a PO creation that I added to. It is beefy at both ends.

[FLYINHIE]

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Thanks Crawlin68. All very good points I'm glad I asked now. Sometimes I'm a little hesitant to ask some of you cuz I know alot of these topics have been discused over and over again. But it's so time consuming to search through al of the hundreds of threads to find the topic that your interested in. So I appreiciate all of your patients and input,it is saving me alot of time and alot of guess work.

[tortuga]

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I'm approaching this issue fast myself, have not figured it out yet.

Had assumed the WH riser would be the easy way, but after looking at it I don't think it will work out. Someone jump in here, but that unit appears to use the stock EB track bar mount on the axle as a brace / weld point.

[blwngsket]

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Don't know if this is any help. But if you have to start from scratch this might help.
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...et-p-1701.html

[Lars]

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Here's another alternative if anyone's interested. Welded to the inside of the passenger inner knuckle. I have Duff's disc brake knuckles and a TRO conversion using GM rod ends. Frame track bar mount in the stock location, stock pitman arm. With those parts I wound up with the drag link and track bar not only parallel but the same length, and it turned out that the track bar could be a piece of straight tube and not hit anything. I can't take credit for the idea though. I saw it first on Jim Creel's Bronco, but as far as I know the idea came from Gary Yorston in Canada.

[TRAILBOUND]

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if your leaving your steering under the knuckle then i don't think i'd do a riser, especially if I was to buy one. Your gonna spend a bunch of money and only need to raise it 1-1.5 inches. And that would be to make perfect geometry. If you go TRO or REO then you'll need a riser. Either way i don't think you need to cut the bracket off unless you really want to. If you do I recommend SS cutting disks (thanks patrick for that tip)

[TBS-POPS]

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Build the steering 1st, Then build the track bar riser... The WH riser is for EB axles not FW axles!!!! The rise in the track bar will depend on steering geometry. Build steering first to set the geometry !!!!

[crawlin68]

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Build the steering 1st, Then build the track bar riser... The WH riser is for EB axles not FW axles!!!! The rise in the track bar will depend on steering geometry. Build steering first to set the geometry !!!!

That is a good point. You really should get the axle under the Bronco with all of the weight in/on the Bronco as you will be driving it. That will set the suspension at what will be your ride height. Then build the track riser to the proper height and position it where it gives you the track bar the same length as your drag link. I really like the way Lars did his outside of the coil spring if you are going to run the Cheby TRE's.



Oh yeah...........SEARCH first before you ask these remedial questions!!!




Just kidding. LOL!

[FLYINHIE]

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I'm all about the remedial..........betta rekognize............ Oh crap ebonics again.........all valid and worthy advise mucho apprieciated.